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I lost my job at Microsoft today...thanks to a wonderful economy...

by dolphman in

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for the last few years, many of my friends have lost their jobs and have not found suitable replacements.

most are on unemployment, and those whose unemployment has run out are simply eeking out some meager existence doing something they don't like, that doesn't pay well, and doesn't help to really reduce the stress they face every day.. well, to be honest, i used to laugh my ass off at them.

ha ha ha i would say.

Winston Smith :>D

Dolph,

Sorry to hear about the bad news. Hopefully you can turn it around into a better situation like Else pointed out.

Steve's right, the residential construction field needs quality employees DESPERATELY !!!

And the bar isn't too high nowadays.

It's rather common for employers to have to pick up their construction workers from Huber [jail] because of DUI's, etc...

If you can show up and put in a solid 40+ hours a week, avoid coming to work stoned or drunk, then you are miles ahead of the rest of the yuks in the field today.

It's a little bonus for your employer if they don't have to garnish your wages every week as well

And since Steve posted his website, you can see how you can parlay construction work with doing the work of the Lord :

Here we see Steve incorporating the door-to-door work selling WatchTower's while meeting a customer.

...why, it looks like Steve has even started a Bible study with a sheep-like one

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If its good, God did it... if its bad Satan did it....

by Elsewhere in

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i've read the bible and i don't recall satan himself actually ever doing anything evil or harmful... however i read many accounts where god killed or tormented countless thousands of people for arbitrary reasons.. aside from prophecies where jehover says that satan will hurt people in the future (hasn't happened yet, and no sign that it will happen), can anyone cite an example in the bible where satan actually harmed anyone?.

Winston Smith :>D

You don't believe in God because you think He is a bad parent?
hello....
Jesus is alive for ever and ever.....
myelaine

God is the: Worst.Parent.Ever. If he's real, he should be turned into CPS

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Are You SURE JWs Don't Have The Truth???

by minimus in

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has anyone here ever questioned whether or not they made the right decision to leave the "truth"?......i'm sure glad i'm out!

Winston Smith :>D

Are You SURE JWs Don't Have The Truth???

Without one doubt

...plus I reason on it like shamus

one day of freedom is better than a thousand in the Pair-of-dice earth with the doorbell-ringing dubs

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Peace and Security

by Mystery in

walking thru the living room this morning, i heard the morning news anchorman say ?peace and security?

those words can still stop me dead in my tracks.

?armageddon was on its way!

Winston Smith :>D

you will soon learn your position in life
Who are you to question what God does? You simple pathetic man..........
Just to clarify, we are all simple and pathetic in comparison to God......
Brownboy

...apparently some of us more than others

[EDIT]

/hijack

Yes, everytime I hear the term "Peace & security" used, it perks my ears as well.

Damned WTS brainwashing has turned me into one of Pavlov's dogs

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Update on my life. Long read. Some good, some bad :-D

by Winston Smith :>D in

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a member on the forum asked via pm how it was going.

i ended up writing a three-page reply.

it felt good to get things off my chest, so i figured i would update the forum of where i am at in life.

Winston Smith :>D

you could always come to Texas and be the Texas apostababes' cabana-boy if the wifey-poo situation doesn't work out. You, Gumbo, and Shotgun, dressed in little towels, fanning the apostababes at the pool and feeding us grapes.... <sigh> hehehehe
CG

I can see it all now

I really hope she'll realise what she is doing before she loses you...I'm glad you're in control though and I wish you the best,
Sirona

Thx Sirona.

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Oh man! JCanon ain't got nothing on this guy...

by joenobody in

while reading the "pyramids vs. floods" thread, one poster slipped in a reference to this website: www.bibledecoded.com .

umm... after reading this for a few minutes (esp.

the history and purported interaction with the governing body) i couldn't get over just how out there the site was.

Winston Smith :>D

Wow

I don't think it's a hoax. The guy has an address for meetings, publications, and rules of why sex is fornication - but sex with a condom on is not fornication

I think you'll find that JCanon IS Gordon Richie of the Lord's Witnesses!

Yeah, that wouldn't surprise me one bit. That site seemed right up his alley

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Responding To Restraining Order and the Charges It Contains

by Corvin in

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i was served a restraining order by the local sheriff from my jw x -wife.

i know without a doubt this is a small maneuver to block me from picketing at the kingdom hall and exposing her lies and bullcrap.

while nancy is in the hospital recovering, the other two girls are now completely indignant and ready to help take this thing head on.

Winston Smith :>D

Corvin, I read that and man, what a ride you and your family have been on! I really wish the best for you and your family.

If I were you, I'd take $200 and spend an hour with a really good attorney for a consultation to see what the next step should be.

IMO, you going into this without qualified legal help would be like a Pastor going in to defend a member of their church before a Judicial Committee. I imagine that there is a whole set of rules in play that goes beyond what is right and fair that may put you at a disadvantage without proper legal guidance.

Best wishes, Paul

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Update on my life. Long read. Some good, some bad :-D

by Winston Smith :>D in

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a member on the forum asked via pm how it was going.

i ended up writing a three-page reply.

it felt good to get things off my chest, so i figured i would update the forum of where i am at in life.

Winston Smith :>D

Winnie: I'm getting along in years and have found that a job change based on principles and character almost always leads to happiness and usually leads to even more success in the long run. May that be the case with you.
Willy

Thx, I feel the same way as well. I see the few people who have been involved with the current company for a while now, and they are not happy people. At the new place most everyone seems quite happy and eager to be part of a winning team. That to me says that the place is run on principles and taking care of their people.

Good Karma. I'm a bigger believer in that than most any other principle in life right now.

Your wife hasn't bolted, which is encouraging...has she given a reason or a hint of it, though? did she say why she's staying?
Badger

Hey bud. Yeah when I got back from the debauchery in TX she said that she couldn't leave because she loved me too much.

Awwwww....

And she admitted that I made some good points to her earlier RE: me not being a "threat" to her continuing as a JW. Which is nice in retrospect that she views me that way.

It's good to hear from you. I miss my huggin' buddy.
Lisa

Thx Lisa. It fun meeting you in TX. You have the fastest grab-ass hands in TX

one of these days, hopefully soon, she'll be able to see through all that cult nonsense and realize what a good (and patient!) man she's got.
insomniac

Thx, I sure hope so. I feel that I can talk to her until I am blue in the face, but actions will speak louder than words. I'm not a big believer in the bible as being inspired nowadays, but I do feel that 1 Cor 13: still holds merit.

4 Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. 5 It is not rude, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs.
8 Love never fails.

If her Authentic True Self really loves me more than the WTS, then I should win her from the cult.

I guess that's what I am waiting to see. Who does she love more?

If you and your wife do decide to call it quits some day, at least you will be able to look back at the whole marriage and what has happened between you two and say.. "I really, really tried".\
even though your wife is still in the borg..she hasn't bolted yet, maybe it's because you are more settled and happier with what's going on in your life and are happy about the decisions you have made.
Special K

It's important to me that I can look back and no that I lived up to my promise of "for better or for worse". I do love her, so I can't just give up on her. I would hope that she'd do the same for me.

Being happy and beating the WTS myth of the "typical apostate" is something that should leave an impression on her. Especially with the Sunday study coming up in the Sept 1 WT, 2nd study article, I am trying to have a good example for her refer to when the WTS spews their lies about how "apostates" conduct themselves.

I WILL be making it a point to demonstrate counter points to her before that study comes up. My hope is that when she reads that garbage, subconsciously she'll have to at least have a thought of doubt RE: what the WTS is saying about me and possibly start to question the WTS's almighty authority on some level.. Well see...

I love you and that rapscallion sibling of yours

You got mail

How did you get that bullet out of your head from our beloved BB's orders and live to go on with your life? :)

...

Just teasing. Always a pleasure to read your stuff.

Farkel

The coming bullet was a welcome relief. BB thought it was a fatal shot, but it only killed my cult self and freed my Authentic Self.

...I'm still pretty queasy around rats though

It's a pleasure to see you post in a thread of mine, even if it is to browbeat

Any attention is better than none at all

And no, I've never been to H 2 O, though I hear it was a jumping club to be at

That is so true about JWs seeing only the negative things now that you are out. Likely she doesnt see how much happier and better off you are.
Mysterious

The negative is usually focused on, and at times fabricated to rationalize a JW's position. I've decided that I'm going to gently be a bit firm about how i have taken a stand for what is true and right, even if it is only in regards to my friends and work. No need to focus on religous issues for now.

I also am going to focus on her realizing that I am HAPPIER now more than any other time in my life. She told me that someone at the KH asked how I am doing and she told them that I wasn't doing well. That pisses me off now that I think about it.

She's establishing the lies that the WTS spreads about me and others that leave the WTS. I'm sure that she doesn't even realize it. I used to say the same thing about my mother who was a JW but then married a "worldly" guy. It's just a reaction that's installed into us by the WTS. I have to make an effort to bypass that in her and help her see that I am truly happy now.

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Update on my life. Long read. Some good, some bad :-D

by Winston Smith :>D in

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a member on the forum asked via pm how it was going.

i ended up writing a three-page reply.

it felt good to get things off my chest, so i figured i would update the forum of where i am at in life.

Winston Smith :>D

She just changed the rules, Paul.
Would you like to get together with Irrev and me. PM me.
Blondie

Yeah, she has this amazing selective memory. I had to remind her that this new job fits the criteria of what SHE wanted to a tee.

It's exactly what I want too, so I happy for the oppurtunity to work there

Hey, jehover must be blessing me for my efforts!

Ahhh, a WI Autumn meet-up with leaves turning color and some warm cider would be wonderful. I'll bring the carmel apples!

I'll PM you with my personal info!

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Update on my life. Long read. Some good, some bad :-D

by Winston Smith :>D in

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a member on the forum asked via pm how it was going.

i ended up writing a three-page reply.

it felt good to get things off my chest, so i figured i would update the forum of where i am at in life.

Winston Smith :>D

Never give up trying to free your love.
kls

I know you fully understand that.

Very passive-aggressive, really.
Thanks for the update!! It sounds like you've got a lot on your plate, and there's nothing like the taste of freedom, is there??
Scully

Yeah, the comment has some weird tones to it. I'd like to think it was just a case of "foot-n-mouth", but:

"out of the heart's abundance the mouth speaks" so I am not just dismissing it lightly

Real freedom is wonderful! It's amazing how wonderful the world and all of the people in it really are!

I am contemplating how the deferred happiness of the JW life - and the bare tolerance of their life on earth - affects the JW psyche.
jgnat

Well, after spending some time thinking about it, I realized that I was putting my ENTIRE life on hold for a raincheck [Paradise/New World/Big-A] that wasn't worth the paper you could print it on.

It was scary when I started thinking about what I have done with my life, putting it on hold. But it also is invigorating now living as though everyday of life is precious.

it's got to be tough...what do you talk about? Anyway, I wish you all the best in all of your endeavors with your wife, ... You know in your own heart that you are good...and all you can do is keep moving forward like you are doing.
Evesapple

Talk about?

Ummm, not religous issues, that's for sure. Although she does get in little digs here and there. I'm sure I do as well.

I guess we talk about the very moment we're in, and about why we still love each other.

I do ask about peopole at the KH and let her talk a bit to me about what's going on in FS or meetings. In return I talk about Aikido and my "worldly" friends.

What you mention is quite important to me. I am following my heart and trying to be true to it and the people I love and touch in my life. i want to look back when I'm on my death-bed and know that I always did all that I could for every situation without regrets for putting my own needs on hold. Tough balance at times.

things have been crazy for me.. and I have thought of ending it all
WF

Brenda,

I enjoyed meeting you and talking with you poolside. You can't end it all yet, you haven't published your book of poetry yet

Besides, I never asked for your email addy so I can send you those picks of that waitress you posed with. Remeber that woman at the diner?

There are a couple of great pics, you'll really like them!!!

PM me with you email addy when you get a chance!

Hang in there. You can't let life beat you down when you've made it so far after being in the WTS cult. You've survived more than most people are ever exposed to

I have friends that swear, have tattoos and drink.

Yeah, but I'm really not that scary in real life.

Rachel

my Snorting Princess,

You weren't supposed to fess up to being my friend on a public forum. I was trying to be discreet about that.

Yeah, there's a chance she can be won over in time. It's going better than I thought it might last you saw all of you in TX.

So who knows, right?

I hope your interest in buddhism gives you a greater sense of peace.
Preston

I think it will.

I joined Aikido for numerous reasons, but I think that a spiritual aspect will be a main benefit.

I haven't fully explained this to my wife yet. She isn't aware of the religous aspects of the Art, & I didn't want to stir the pot anymore than I am. I just explain Aikido more as a recreational interest to me for now.

Tough situation to have to be married to somebody that doesn't trust you.
czar

I just think of it as her cult personality making these judgements, and not her true authentic self seeing me this way.

I can typically look in her eyes and see right away which wife I am dealing with by her eyes. It's like dealing with someone who is possesed. I can't take what the cult identity says to me personally.

Hell, I may have said the same things to her if my wife left the WTS & I was the one who stayed in.

I thought she was packing up the weekend you were in Dallas. That shows a bit of promise for the future, perhaps. I hope so.
Nina

Yes, that was a surprise to come home and find her stuff still in boxes but not moved out. That was certainly a pivotal point in the marraige, and things have been steadily improving since then.

Thanks for the congrats on the job.

I do think of you and Chris and the very 1st phone conversation I had with the both of you. I constantly bring up the both of you in my mind and think of the time waited for things to sort out. I do see my wife's attitude changing from what it was a year ago, so I have to say that I have more hope now than I do a year ago.

thx wanna, got it!